1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:07,000 I'm an Oklahoma commercial pilot and I just landed at the Fort City Municipal. 2 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:08,000 Yes sir. 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:15,000 And there was myself and another civil aircraft. 4 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:20,000 We spotted something into the center of Clayton, New Mexico. 5 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:21,000 Yes. 6 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:26,000 No position lights, no strobe lights, no rotating beacons. 7 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:34,000 But steady light alternating seemed to go from white to orange. 8 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:41,000 This thing was flying somewhere between 500, well under a thousand feet, I'm sure. 9 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:51,000 There Clayton and then maneuvered a bit and moving slowly and then went off to the north of Clayton, New Mexico, descending. 10 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,000 Then just out of sight. 11 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:55,000 Okay. 12 00:00:55,000 --> 00:01:00,000 Now was this something large or small? 13 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:02,000 That's kind of hard to say. 14 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:13,000 It would have had to be in three fair size because we were both about probably around 35 nautical miles as close as we were been. 15 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:15,000 Okay. 16 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:19,000 It is just a matter of clear night here tonight. 17 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:23,000 And both others are commercial pilots. 18 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:24,000 Okay. 19 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:36,000 And the other fellow standing right here and this thing here, we didn't see any violent maneuvers, anything up and down. 20 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,000 Uh huh. 21 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:47,000 Radical quick direction changes or anything like that and the attitude appeared to be more or less level for just a few minutes and then a gradual descent. 22 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:48,000 Okay. 23 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:49,000 A northernly heading. 24 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:50,000 Okay. 25 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:53,000 Did it have any type of outline, specific outline? 26 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:56,000 No sir, we weren't close enough to see any outline at all. 27 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:57,000 Okay. 28 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:05,000 As a matter of fact, if we, you know, if it hadn't of just went completely out of sight at the speed of its traveling, we could have easily overtaken it. 29 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:06,000 Uh huh. 30 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:09,000 With the type of aircraft that we would both fly. 31 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:14,000 Another reason we didn't go there is we got pretty good low level turbulence here tonight. 32 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,000 Okay. 33 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:19,000 Was this out in front of you at all times? 34 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:23,000 It was right, it was 90 degrees to the 12th. 35 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:24,000 Okay. 36 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:30,000 But we, you can see the background lights on the ground of the plate in Mexico. 37 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:31,000 Yes. 38 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:35,000 And you can actually see this thing, you know, you could track its direction and travel. 39 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:36,000 Okay. 40 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:38,000 If I could carry that with the background light. 41 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:39,000 Okay. 42 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:40,000 Right in the city. 43 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:42,000 What time did that occur? 44 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:44,000 Okay, uh, 15 minutes. 45 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:45,000 Yeah, about 15 minutes ago. 46 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:46,000 Okay. 47 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:52,000 But it did move or change its course while you were flying the straight line? 48 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:53,000 Yes. 49 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:54,000 Right, it did. 50 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:55,000 Right. 51 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:56,000 Yeah, we could see the movement. 52 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:57,000 Okay. 53 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:02,000 There was no problem to identify, you know, this thing was in back in motion. 54 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:03,000 Okay. 55 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:05,000 How long do you feel you watched it all together? 56 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:07,000 Uh, we probably watched it first. 57 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:12,000 Oh, yeah, 15 minutes or so, maybe a little more. 58 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:13,000 Okay. 59 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,000 But it was, it was slow moving. 60 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:21,000 There wasn't any, you know, any speed much about it. 61 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:28,000 And it, uh, it moved on off to north of the town of Playton, New Mexico into an unlitered, 62 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:29,000 rural area. 63 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:30,000 Uh-huh. 64 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:33,000 And descended at that point. 65 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:39,000 And, uh, probably got high terrain between us. 66 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:40,000 Okay. 67 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:42,000 Was it leaving any kind of a trail at all? 68 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:45,000 Not that, not that we could observe. 69 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:46,000 Okay. 70 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:47,000 Okay. 71 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:49,000 Where did you get our number? 72 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:52,000 Uh, I got it from the Amarillo Tower. 73 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:53,000 Okay. 74 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:57,000 The reason we got it from the Amarillo Tower, there were some people, uh, Venus was real 75 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:03,000 bright tonight and, uh, and both of us just, uh, you know, flew into Amarillo earlier this 76 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:04,000 evening. 77 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:05,000 Yes. 78 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:09,000 And some people on the ground had been seeing something out there and, uh, approached 79 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:16,000 and told us to both look and we were both in the same airplane going in there. 80 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:22,000 And they asked us if we observed anything unusual and we kind of chuckled back and forth with 81 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:27,000 the coach and told them, no, we didn't see any debris or anything like that and we'll 82 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:33,000 be home, uh, coming home by inter-owned airplanes right here and we see something. 83 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:34,000 Okay. 84 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,000 Now, what city was that in where they were seeing things? 85 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,000 Uh, that was reported at Amarillo. 86 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:39,000 Okay. 87 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:43,000 The Amarillo Tower had asked us, uh, their Amarillo approach control, their tower at 88 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:44,000 the International Airport. 89 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:47,000 So we were making the approach into Amarillo tonight. 90 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:51,000 Ask us to, uh, you know, if we saw anything. 91 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:52,000 Yes. 92 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:53,000 Okay. 93 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:59,000 That was about 90 miles south of the little east of where we saw this, uh, object. 94 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:00,000 Okay. 95 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:03,000 Well, we sure appreciate your reporting that. 96 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:07,000 And if we get any follow-up information relating to this, we'll let you know. 97 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:09,000 You need any information on the other pilot. 98 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:10,000 No, sir. 99 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,000 And if we need it, we'll get back to you. 100 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:13,000 Okay. 101 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:14,000 Very good. 102 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:15,000 Thanks very much. 103 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:16,000 Bye.